"Look at the legalized adultery we call divorce.
Men marry one wife after another and are still admitted into good
society; and women do likewise. There are thousands of supposedly
respectable men in America living with other men's wives, and thousands
of supposedly respectable women living with other women's husbands."
- R. A. Torrey From R.A. Torrey's book How to Pray, pages 94-95
R.A. Torrey (1856-1928) was a very well-known Christian writer,
evangelist, pastor, graduate of Yale University, and was also the
superintendent of Moody Bible Institute for 19 years.
TRINITY BARS THE
DIVORCED.; No Remarriage in the Church or Any of the Chapels.
The clergy of Trinity Church announced yesterday that under no
circumstances will divorced persons be married by any of the clergy of
that Episcopal parish, nor will such marriages be permitted either in
the church at Wall Street and Broadway or in any one of the parish's
eight chapels. The announcement was as follows:
View full article New York Times
December 7, 1904, Wednesday
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Raised Catholic. One of
eight kids. Number three child. Number two son. Dad would say the hero
was the guy who married the divorced woman and raised her kids. We lived
in a time when Catholics had big families. We were fat on ritual, but
lean on Spirit. I strayed away from the Catholics around age 17. Then I
lived like a normal heathen for about 15 years. During that time the
Lord was reaching out to me through people I would meet. I came to a
saving faith while separated from my first adultery partner. We were
married by a Justice of the Peace in Illinois in 1983. (Her one-flesh
covenant marriage partner was still alive and had since married another
woman.) Page 63 of “Power for Living” by Jamie Buckingham explained how
I could receive Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. I was miraculously
saved in March of 1985. Even before receiving Christ I had an unsettled
feeling in my spirit that I should not be married to a divorced woman.
After being saved, I would listen to hours of Bible teaching each day.
But the teachers were all Matthew/Pauline exception theory people. They
convinced me, against my apprehensions, that my marriage to the divorced
woman was “OK” with God. That illegitimate marriage ended in 1988.
When my first illegitimate marriage ended I was very active in the
Christian churches. Everyone was Matthew/Pauline exception theory and
“we live under grace not under law”. At that time the only people who
questioned whether second marriages were legitimate were a couple of
holiness Pentecostals and an occasional Mennonite. Since my Christian
churches did not teach the one-flesh covenant marriage concept, I was
left in limbo
We know that when a never-married-before guy marries a divorced woman,
he is living in adultery. So to get right with God, he should flee that
adulterous relationship. Why? Because the divorced wife is violating the
vows to her one-flesh covenant marriage partner. She is disobeying the
statement of Jesus: “What therefore God hath joined together, let not
man put asunder. “ (Matthew 19:6 and Mark 10:9). So, in the eyes of the
grace-not-law folks, I’m forever a “divorced” man. They don’t teach
about the one-flesh covenant marriage relationship, so, in their eyes, a
person divorced from a legitimate marriage is in the same boat as a
person divorced from an illegitimate marriage. So, can I ever marry
again and not be living in sloppy-agape?
Now follow my logic here: A marriage can’t be legitimate and
illegitimate at the same time. If you divorce from a legitimate marriage
and remarry anyone else you are committing adultery. But, if you divorce
from an illegitimate marriage and marry a life-long single person, you
are not committing adultery! You are not violating anybody’s one-flesh
covenant marriage relationship. If you divorce from an illegitimate
marriage and marry someone who has never been in a one-flesh covenant
marriage relationship, you are not committing adultery! You are not
violating anybody’s one-flesh covenant marriage relationship.
I met my second illegitimate marriage partner in 1992. (Her one-flesh
covenant marriage partner was still alive and had since married another
woman). I stepped into church-sanctified adultery in 1993. Years later
in 2001, while still living in church-sanctified adultery, I had a
desire to have a closer walk with the Lord. So I had this idea: I would
have the audio reading of the New Testament play softly while I slept.
All night long my spirit would hear the word of God and I hoped that
this would bring me closer to the Lord. Most of what I heard would be
like gliding down a highway on a smooth road surface. But, when I would
hear Jesus equate remarriage with adultery it was like hitting a speed
bump at 60 mph. I could not have a peace about my marriage situation.
Nevertheless, everywhere I would go and whoever I would speak with had
no problem with me being married to a divorced woman. A woman who's
one-flesh marriage partner was still alive.
In July of 1995, employment opportunities moved (name deleted) and I
away from our home churches. I was no longer under their strong
influence. My convictions started to grow until 2003 when I told (name
deleted) that I was having reservations about our marriage. She said I
should go see a psychiatrist and summarily dismissed the subject. The
people who hoodwinked me INTO church-sanctified adultery, became the
same people fighting me as I struggled to get OUT of church-sanctified
adultery. Sound familiar?
The reactions to my convictions were swift and strong. Instead of
engaging me with the scriptures, they were trying to pull the rug out
from under my feet by saying the following:
“It sounds to me like you have come back under the law!”
“You don't understand Grace!”
“You are guilty of stinking-thinking!”
“You should be a fisher of men not a cleaner of the fish bowl!”
“God doesn't recognize unbeliever's marriages!”
“Wake-up, we live in different times!”
“You have fallen into legalism!”
“Where is your love?”
“Don't be so dogmatic!”
“It's subject to interpretation!”
“You are being so negative!”
“Where is your compassion?”
“The scripture is not to be taken in a wooden-literal sense!”
“They may not be perfect, but God knows their hearts!”
“All things have become new!”
“Your beliefs are way off the main stream of Christianity”
“Your words come from the lunatic fringe!”
“What rabbinical school or seminary agrees with you!”
No doubt the modern church would level the same charges against Jesus or
John the Baptist if they were to open their mouths in these modern
assembles.
In 2003, I had an epiphany: I was no longer under their spell!!!!!
1. They say, “David is being judgmental” (But quoting the truth from the
Bible and applying it to our lives is not being hypocritical. It is
demonstrating righteous judgment (John 7:24 and 1 Corinthians 2:15)
2. They say, “The whole point of the sermon of the mount is, 'be ye
perfect, as your Father in heaven, is perfect'“. When they say that “no
one is perfect” they mean that “no one is obedient”. We should have a
heart that is perfect toward God. An obedient heart that walks in the
steps of faith, that does the works of faith and the deeds of faith.
That is what God desires.
3. They conveniently fail to mention that Moichao (3429) in Matt 5:32 is
in the continuous tense. Matthew 5:32a; “Anyone who divorces his wife
for any other reason than porneia, he causes her to commit adultery.”
Matthew 5:32b; “He who marries a divorced woman keeps on committing
adultery.” The adultery is not a one-time act, it is a state of being!
Present tense in the Greek usually describes a continuous activity.
This apostate teaching has oppressed me for nearly seven years. It has
robbed me of fellowship. How can I sit under teaching that I militate
against? How can I sit in these churches and pretend that everybody is
all right? How could the Lord instruct me to tithe to these
organizations? Why should I strengthen their hands? This has brought me
to my knees. I am shaken to the core. I am cast out into the wilderness.
I am outside my children’s' lives. Who understands? Who cares? I take a
big risk when I share these thoughts in this forum. But what else do I
have to lose? Tears flow when I consider what has been taken from me and
from so many other people. Do I dare cause one of Jesus' little ones to
stumble? Do I dare teach people to live in re-marital adultery? Is it
merely subject to interpretation?
I made a vow to my second re-marital adultery partner “for better, or
worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness or in health, to love and to
cherish 'till death do us part”. Why would God honor a vow that resulted
in the sin of adultery? Still I feel a responsibility for the three
girls we adopted during our marriage. I have been working under the
premise that, if you bless the mother, then you will bless the children.
In order to provide for the children, I can not afford to live like a
normal person. God has shown me ways to make ends meet. I've been living
in an RV for 4 years now and I've been enduring harsh Ohio winters. My
hands are cold as I write this testimony, but my heart is warm. I drive
100 miles each way to spend Saturdays with the kids. I work late Friday
nights and get about 5 hours of sleep then I make the journey up to
spend time with them. I head back toward the RV around midnight Saturday
nights. I also pay their tuition at the Christian academy. I die a
little every day. I live by convictions not preferences. We are called
to be living sacrifices. Obedience servants! By the way, “Behold, to
obey is better than sacrifice” (1 Samuel 15:22b)
It hits me hard how I am “outside” of my children's lives. I get to hang
with them about 10-12 hours a week. The adverse affects of the
separation immediately dumped on me and has not let up since. I went
back to the cold empty house. I was stuck with the task of moving out
and cleaning up the house that
I could no longer afford to rent. I was now on the “outside”. Almost a
stranger around the kids that I had burped, diapered and caressed. In
one swoop I was “out”. The system made me an instant criminal. Papers
were served. Savings were decimated. Lawyers were excited. Friends were
only briefly perplexed. Then they moved-on. Some picked sides. Most just
sighed and let it be crowded-out by the worries of the day. No one ever
asked whether the “marriage” was legitimate in the eyes of God. Now I
have huge forced child support payments to make for the next decade. Not
understanding the circumstances, my youngest daughter tells her
classmates that I have no friends, that I am not a Christian. She says
that she is embarrassed that her dad lives in a motor home.
Church people say, “Become a part of our group. Submit to our church
leaders. Come to our assemblies often enough and we will give you our
stamp of approval. God has called us to peace. Don’t question our
doctrine. Don’t make waves. You can’t be a Christian if you don’t go to
church. Every church is bound to have some questionable doctrine. Pick
one and submit. Who do you think you are anyway?” It’s no longer, “the
soul that sinneth, it shall die” (Ezekiel 18:20). But it’s, “You shall
not surely die” (Genesis 3:4)
I am not going to sit under teaching that I can not stomach! If, I walk
into any of these churches, I will be tempted by the women seeking
another adultery partner. They say, “God understands our sinful desires.
God knows my heart. He knows I will stumble from time to time. Isn’t
that why Jesus died for my sins? So I don’t have to worry when I commit
sins?”
Christ within us, the hope of glory. The average “Christian” does not
understand. The others are hopelessly clueless. The Christian faith has
become a set of rules and regulations. A code of conduct. A way of
living. Parameters which define our acceptable response to the lusts of
the eyes, the flesh, and the pride of life. So much of what we see is
external to the true life of Christ. We have our doctrines, our
arguments, our perspectives, our comforts. But we don’t have the life.
We don’t have Christ walking within us. I can’t yoke with the apostates.
I will not run with the crowd. “Why won’t you conform? Who would ever
want to hang with you? You are taking this Jesus stuff to an extreme.
Wake up and smell the coffee.”
Don't get me wrong I'm not making this a litmus test for true salvation.
In the times of Jesus, the religious leaders said the people were
ignorant because they did not know the law. In the “dark ages” they said
the people were ignorant because they did not know Latin. Now they say
we are ignorant because we don't know “proper” hermeneutics and
exegesis. Without their systematic theology we can not “properly”
understand the scriptures.
It's everywhere I turn.; divorce, remarriage, adultery and fornication.
I am the one who gets in trouble when I question it. How could I be so
“out of it”? Oh well! Just another divorce. First husband. Second
husband. Third husband. We treat them all the same. The “Christian”
lawyer was just doing his job and “not passing judgment”. Let our
apostate religious leaders parse through their self-inflicted
“difficulties” with scripture. It takes a lot of words and human
reasoning to re-interpret what scripture clearly teaches. “You don’t
expect me to lose my preaching position, do you?” Our viewpoint is
attacked from all directions, “heathens” and “saints” alike. The church
has lost its salt and light. Where is the righteous standard?
How many of us are satisfied with religion that is not acceptable to
God? Living in a dream state that ultimately leads to eternal
destruction? Actually taking a walk on the “wild side” when it appears
that we are being quite conservative!
Consider the following sacrifices we make:
We go to church every Sunday, but we live in adultery.
We go to church every Wednesday evening, but we live in adultery.
We abstain from beer, but we live in adultery.
We serve our church, but we live in adultery.
We pay our tithe every week, but we live in adultery.
Some sacrifice each Lent, but live in adultery.
Are we deceived into thinking that all our sacrifices will enable us to
disobey God's law? Is man's law as a good substitute for God's law?
Heathen” response:
We all know that society is “going to hell in a hand basket”. What about
the broad-road church that encourages re-marital adultery? Society looks
at the “church” and sees no difference in behavior. The “heathen” say
why bother with all this Jesus stuff. Those church folk are no better
than we are. I have had “heathens” tell me that fornication is less of a
sin than adultery. “Why not live with my girl friend, at least I'm not
living in adultery.”
I could be “hanging out” with all kinds of people right now. Watching
sports. Drinking liquor. Chasing women. Catching women. “Get involved
with people, if you do then all of your weird beliefs will disappear.”
“Enjoy life while you can.” “Do you believe that it is evil to have some
fun?” “I have some girl friends who would like to meet you”. “Relax a
little”. “Live a little”. “Don’t be such a bore”. “Go with the flow”.
“Don’t judge other people’s behavior.”
There are lots of very attractive women in my line of work. (It’s nice
not to be looking for romance from every lady I see.) They wonder why I
am not on the “rebound”. Some question whether I am gay. They think that
maybe I don’t have the social skills to attract a woman. What an odd
ball! How come he doesn’t go out drinking with us? What does the Bible
have to do with anything?
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