"Look at the legalized adultery we call divorce.
Men marry one wife after another and are still admitted into good
society; and women do likewise. There are thousands of supposedly
respectable men in America living with other men's wives, and thousands
of supposedly respectable women living with other women's husbands."
- R. A. Torrey From R.A. Torrey's book How to Pray, pages 94-95
R.A. Torrey (1856-1928) was a very well-known Christian writer,
evangelist, pastor, graduate of Yale University, and was also the
superintendent of Moody Bible Institute for 19 years.
TRINITY BARS THE
DIVORCED.; No Remarriage in the Church or Any of the Chapels.
The clergy of Trinity Church announced yesterday that under no
circumstances will divorced persons be married by any of the clergy of
that Episcopal parish, nor will such marriages be permitted either in
the church at Wall Street and Broadway or in any one of the parish's
eight chapels. The announcement was as follows:
View full article New York Times
December 7, 1904, Wednesday
Comment/question
But the command to Hosea does not apply to anyone other than Hosea.
Response
So you believe a Christian is NOT to walk in the love expressed in I
Corinthians 13 or Ephesians 5 in regards to an erring/wayward spouse?
Comment/question
This account hardly makes a dent in the argument of marriage, divorce &
remarriage because this
marriage was very unusual and went against other express commands to the
contrary. It is not normative and should not be used to develop a
universal doctrine with regard to MDR.
Response
You are not taking away from Hosea/Gomer what God wants us to see. It is
GRACE (unmerited favor). That is the message...........it is about TRUE,
Agape Love-----God's kind of Love. The kind of love we are called to.
It's not just a kind of love only SOME believers are called to----it is
EXPECTED of ALL of us. I find it so sad that many Christians teach about
love and forgiveness, yet they are embittered about their own
spouses.............spewing things against them. Many, many times I've
read about 2nd/3rd spouses speaking evil of the covenant
spouse.........even things about the children of the covenant marriage.
Is this the love of Christ? I just do not think so.
Comment/question
Second, Hosea did not divorce Gomer. She went after her many lovers and
by law, Hosea had the right to divorce her but he did not.
Response
No, according to OT law, Hosea would have had the right to STONE HER.
That would have made him a widower, free to marry again.
Comment/question
Cindy, you are incorrect to some degree. The death by stoning was the
penalty, should it be desired to be exercised. You see Joseph had that
option available to him with Mary. But it did not have to be that way.
Consider the allegory of Hosea and Gomer. Was she stoned to death each
time?
Response
You are correct in that pre-marriage bed divorce must have been allowed
since Joseph was pondering do such a thing.
You
are also correct that Gomer did not get stoned, but that was the "law",
no? As has been stated many times before God desires MERCY. Do you think
exercising what you believe is an entitlement due to sin is MERCY and
ultimately is LOVE.............the same mercy and Love as is shown in
Hosea, who WAITED for Gomer to stop sinning and decide to come home?
Whose
children are more blessed-----those who see a parent STAND for a wayward
spouse and then when that spouse finally repents, SEES the depth of TRUE
love abiding in that house----both on the part of the one who loved
THROUGH sin and on the part of the one who WAS LOVED while they were in
sin------or those who see their parent give up on the wayward and move
on to a seemingly "happy" marriage with another? Can you imagine the
depth of love a forgiven spouse would feel for that one who waited in
love for them? Much like some of us who were BIG sinners and felt the
depth of God's love for us even though we were such great sinners?
Truly
which reflects Jesus?
Comment/question
Hosea was commanded by God specifically to do what he did. That allegory
serves as a demonstration of God's patience with
Response
Again.............I Corinthians 13 applies to ALL TRUE believers.
Comment/question
Hosea and Gomer are not any kind of proof that sexual sin DOES NOT break
the marriage bond. Rather their marriage shows that divorce is not the
only option ... Like Hosea ... we should always seek restoration if our
spouse is willing to repent. It is however a personal choice based on
the individual situation.
Response
Where do we ever see that we are given an option to reconcile with a
spouse that's sinned? Also, where do we see a time limit concerning a
spouse's repentance before we "go on" to another person? As for Hosea
and Gomer, you say that their marital bond was broken...........do you
mean their ONE flesh that God joined was now dissolved?
Comment/question
Hosea/Gomer - I have no difficulty with this passage because I do not
believe that a divorce is REQUIRED when there is adultery, but every
attempt should be made to reconcile marriages even when adultery was a
factor. There are times however where reconciliation is just not
possible, and it is in those times that the exception applies.
Response
When is reconciliation not possible? The only time I can see when it is
not possible is when one of the spouses dies. Beyond that,
reconciliation is ALWAYS a possibility. There have been many couples who
have been reconciled AFTER a divorce/remarriage. Do you not believe all
things are possible with God.........or do you place limits on what can
be done?
A Preacher's Repentance From Adulterous Remarriage.
The Testimony of J.M Humphrey
Judy's Repentance From Remarriage Adultery
Tony Sexton's Repentance From Remarriage Adultery
Dave's Repentance From Remarriage Adultery
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has an online fellowship and discussion forum for those who
are standing for their covenant marriages and for those who
have repented of adulterous remarriages.
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effort by volunteers to contact each Pastor and leader of
the Christian Church worldwide with this message of
repentance and restoration.
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