"Look at the legalized adultery we call divorce.
Men marry one wife after another and are still admitted into good
society; and women do likewise. There are thousands of supposedly
respectable men in American living with other men's wives, and thousands
of supposedly respectable women living with other women's husbands."
- R. A. Torrey From R.A. Torrey's book How to Pray, pages 94-95
R.A. Torrey (1856-1928) was a very well-known Christian writer,
evangelist, pastor, graduate of Yale University, and was also the
superintendent of Moody Bible Institute for 19 years.
TRINITY BARS THE
DIVORCED.; No Remarriage in the Church or Any of the Chapels.
The clergy of Trinity Church announced yesterday that under no
circumstances will divorced persons be married by any of the clergy of
that Episcopal parish, nor will such marriages be permitted either in
the church at Wall Street and Broadway or in any one of the parish's
eight chapels. The announcement was as follows:
View full article New York Times
December 7, 1904, Wednesday
Comment/question
And none of you, no not one, can EVER at any
time find any Scriptural support that God would not lead someone to not
only divorce but remarriage when it was God Himself that "divorced" His
chosen people, and established a new covenant in the blood of Christ.
Response
The problem with that thought is that you made
an incomplete and in some ways false statement. Did God divorce
Ps. Edited to add: Romans 11:15-32, Ephesians 2:12-22.
Comment/question
Jeremiah 3:6-11
6 During the reign of King Josiah, the Lord said to me, "Have you seen
what faithless
Response
Another great passage.......it shows that the
FOLLOWERS of sin who have already seen God's hand deal and then go ahead
and SIN ANYWAYS, will receive more judgment from the Lord (viewed as
MORE guilty). I noticed you did not post the other part of this
passage: "Turn, O backsliding children, saith the Lord; for I AM MARRIED
TO YOU............" Jeremiah 3:14 Notice the Lord says this AFTER He has
given a "bill of divorce"..............a bill many of you say DISSOLVES
a marriage. Is the Lord confused about the power of a "bill of
divorcement" ..............or are we?
Comment/question
Concerning Isreal and Judah… Isreal was divorced, but a new covenant
would be given (Jesus) with a new bride (Christian Church).
Response
The "new" is grafted in with the "old", (name
deleted). see Rom. 11.
Comment/question
So while you may see them as blind and thus
they commit all sorts of immorality, and they are to be pitied, but the
other spouse is required to NOT be an enabler of their sins. Do you
understand this?
We are not to be enablers of the sins of others. And thus while some are
given to compassion for the wayward, it may not be "right" in God's
sight for the spouse to do so IF it enables the wayward spouse to
further their own condemnation.
Response
I too don't believe in being an "enabler" of
sin, but you discount all the scriptures I have provided on the TRUTH
that it is God's heart/mind/will to restore, not to reject and replace.
You cannot find that in His Word.
You keep saying that God rejected
Comment/question
The old covenant is no longer - the remnant
(not all of
It is a new covenant - a new marriage... They bride is not the same.
It is not a different dispensation, but in fact, a new covanant.
Response
Of course it is not the same covenant. The
Lord said He makes a BETTER covenant and
Comment/question
However, the Lord is no longer joined to
Response
You really do need to study more about
Comment/question
Jeremiah 3.....................
Talks about God pleading after divorce with a wayward Israel.... Israel
does not marry after God sends her away.... so it really doesn't apply.
Response
Jesus (as well as Paul) states that a remarriage is adultery, so the
"vows" were null anyways-----the "married" were already married to
someone else----not free to vow to another. Scripture is very clear that
one CAN repent from adultery and return to one's covenant spouse.
(Hosea).
Comment/question
I will ask a question:
Did God commit adultery when He divorced Israel (the 10 northern tribes)
but then marrys the Church?
We see those tribes mentioned as being on the earth and in heaven at the
end in Revelations, so Israel certainly did not die.
Response
God did not take a "NEW" bride. Read Romans 11. The gentile
believers were GRAFTED IN to the entity that God took to Himself which
ALREADY existed (including them from Israel). Only those who walked in
disbelief were "cut off"............but they could always return.
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